Ted Joanen, a retired wildlife biologist based in Lake Charles, LA, who has an extensive history researching and working with alligators, sits down with Mark Copley and Doug Miller and discusses his opinion on waterfowling. Listen to the full episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!

Episode four of XO: Beyond The Boat features XO host Doug Miller and retired wildlife biologist Ted Joanen met at Grosse Savanne Lodge to discuss this career as a biologist.

Episode three of XO: Beyond The Boat features XO host Doug Miller and retired wildlife biologist Ted Joanen met at Grosse Savanne Lodge to discuss the history of the American alligator.

This is the Lagniappe of the Trifecta XO series! Enjoy this small extra episode where Mark Copley and Doug Miller sneak off to catch a monster redfish on top water, and meet the Chef Matt Whitney from Grosse Savanne Lodge  and get a look into his world!